The 9 Rites of Isis & Osiris — Mystika School
The 9 Rites of Isis & Osiris

The 9 Rites of
Isis & Osiris

Your Own Private
Tantric Couples Journey
— Held One-to-One Just for You
& Your Beloved
  • Reignite Intimacy, Heal Distance, and Deepen Soul Connection
  • Learn Powerful Egyptian Tantric Practices as a Couple
  • Take the Teachings Privately into Your Bedroom and Lovemaking
  • Uniquely Tailored Exclusively For You & Your Partner
Led by Kiya Ankara — Best-Selling Author of
Egyptian Tantric Secrets
and guide to thousands worldwide for 18 years.

This is not a Group Programme… it’s a Bespoke Live Online Journey Exclusively for You & Your Partner.

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Kiya Introduces
The 9 Rites Journey

Hear direct from Kiya about The 9 Rites, what to expect, and whether this journey is calling you & your beloved.

The 9 Rites — Introduction Video
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Isis & Osiris — the sacred gaze
The 9 Rites of Isis
& Osiris

Love Is Still There…
So Why Does Something
Feel Missing?

Perhaps you’ve shared years together… built a life, weathered storms, stayed loyal… yet still feel another level of love and connection waiting to be opened.

Maybe your relationship is newer… attraction is on fire! Something potent and alive is between you… yet you sense there are deeper depths — and higher heights you could touch together.

From the outside, your relationship may look good.

But inside… you know good is not the same as amazing…
you know that average sex is not the same as ecstatic lovemaking…
the kind that leaves you speechless.

You know you need keys to help you navigate daily life, challenges and stress,
keys that help bring you back again and again to love.

Long-term couple

For some couples, over years the fires fade…

  • Passion became occasional.
  • Touch became familiar.
  • Conversations became practical.
  • Life admin replaced mystery.

Two loving humans… but less passion between them.

What once felt like the fires of passion, now feels like it has turned to embers.

Newer couple

For newer couples, the ache can feel different:

  • How do we keep the fire of love burning bright?
  • How do we build something sacred and powerful from the beginning… instead of sliding into the old patterns we’ve played out so many times before?
  • How do we turn attraction into devotion… chemistry into potent polarity… love into a force that elevates us to a new level of relationship.
love fuels our lives…
But love without soul is missing its essence.
Love without flames & Passion leaves you with dying embers…
So will you fan the flames?
Or leave them to die?

Most relationships don’t break from a dramatic collapse. The flames fade through Routine. Work. Family. Stress. Unspoken truths & the slow loss of eros.

A couple feeling the distance between them

You may love each other… and yearn for deeper intimacy.

You may desire each other… and know more fire and passion is possible.

You may feel spiritually connected… yet sense the relationship wants to rise to new heights, beyond imagination.

The truth is:
Most couples don’t need a new partner.
They need to reawaken the spark with their beloved.
It’s all too easy to slip into easy routines.
But a couple who journeys into Tantra Learns how to love more, how to activate energy, how to easily release stress, and how to rise – and support each other – to taste ecstasy…

A couple in a tender, loving moment

There are heights perhaps you’ve touched briefly, and that show you the next levels of potential you could share…

As beloveds. As lovers.
In the bedroom.
And in the day-to-day
of a life lived fully
– joyfully – blissfully – freely.

But how do you touch those every day of your life?
How do you integrate them into your life so much that everything transforms?

Is that even possible?

YES!

And this is where The 9 Rites carry keys
to unlock the next-levels of blissful, super connection living

Why Work With Me?

The Near-Death Experience
That Led Me to Goddess Isis
(And Can Help You Too)

Kiya Ankara

Dear Sister or Brother,

Let me tell you about the crazy tale that almost killed me – and ultimately initiated me into the teachings of Isis & Osiris.

My name’s Kiya, and I’ve been offering deep spiritual experiences to others for 18 years now – through Ecstatic Dance, then later through Rebirthing Breathwork and Tantra.

6 years ago, I was living a double life — as a filmmaker and a spiritual teacher — with filmmaking paying most of my bills.

One day, I was getting my camera and lights ready to interview Sarita, a tantra teacher in Bali, Indonesia.

I grabbed an extension lead and the power cable for the light. I didn’t even notice the loose wire sticking out of the extension cable…

The moment the plug slotted into the extension, the most excruciating pain of my life ripped through my entire body as 220 volts of electricity surged through me.

Every single part of my body felt like it was being torn apart. I tried to let go of the power cable, but my hands were magnetized by the electricity.

Sarita and her partner were rushing to try to find the kill switch – and 220 volts were coursing through my body, every muscle contracting in an attempt to protect my heart.

Suddenly, I heard an inner voice speak with absolute clarity – “You have to get out of this – right now.”

I knew the truth of it – if I don’t get out of this now, I could die.

Somehow, I directed every ounce of will and strength I could muster… and pulled the plug out of the extension, cutting the connection. I collapsed to the ground in agony – but alive.

Hours later in the hospital, the doctor asked me how long I’d been ‘plugged in’ for.

‘About 10 seconds,’ I said – that’s how long it seemed to me.

Sarita’s partner turned to me: ‘Brother, it wasn’t 10 seconds… it was 2 or 3 minutes.’

It was only then I realized how close to death I’d come…

After 24 hours in the hospital, they sent me home to recover.

The days afterwards, my nervous system felt raw. What followed was 4 of the toughest months of my life…

Dark night of the soul?

Dark months more like.

I began to realise my job as a filmmaker was no longer bringing me joy… it paid the bills but kept me stuck at the computer, eternally editing.

My girlfriend left me, and feeling heartbroken and existentially lost, I moved to the ocean thinking it would do me good.

Living in paradise I had months of trying to escape from my personal hell… reaching out to my old addictions to try and numb the pain.

It brought me in the end – literally – to my knees in desperation.

“God… goddess… guides… anyone… please help me.”

Then I heard that wise voice again, the one that had spoken to me during the electrocution.

“Do the one Egyptian breathwork practice you know.”

I sat on my balcony, facing the jungle, and began the Ankh Breathwork I’d received as a ‘download’ some years earlier.

I chanted to Goddess Isis, without really knowing who she was, without fully understanding this call to Egypt that had come out of nowhere.

That’s when Isis arrived
in the most powerful
visionary experience of
my life.

Goddess Isis — vast, golden, wings wide open before the pyramids

She appeared many times bigger than a human – vast, golden, and shining so bright it was almost blinding.

She said she’d been guiding me for years, since I’d first discovered Ankh Breathwork. She explained I’d had past lives in Egypt, and she could help me reconnect to them.

She told me I was a channel – hence being able to hear her words…

She said to me: “The electrocution had to happen – to prepare you for this.”

The addictions fell away as Isis stepped fully into my life.

Over 9 days, I received a stream of teachings from her that were so powerful, so precise, that I downloaded 80,000 words – the teachings that came to form my best-selling book Egyptian Tantric Secrets.

The practices have transformed by life on every level.

The 9 Rites are a continuation of my Egyptian Tantric Secrets book, focused specifically towards couples and helping them to go deeper.

Some might be wondering – why bother connecting to these ancient gods from a distant land… and yet… they are right here on higher planes of consciousness, ready to support anyone to step into their soul path, their heart mission…

They’re ever ready to support you – and if you feel that call, I’m here to support you at every step along the way – to initiate you as Isis has initiated me – to support others to go deeper, rise higher, and in the words of Isis – ‘to open their wings’.

Take a breath, and see if you feel the heart’s call – the soul’s call.

Yes, We Feel the Call
The 9 Rites of Isis
& Osiris

A Journey Like
No Other

The 9 Rites of Isis & Osiris are a powerful series of tantric sessions, created specifically for couples.

The myth of Isis & Osiris tells us of a great Queen and King who are deeply in love. Their love story is not just an ancient myth, but a tantric map that can guide you into deep connection with yourself and your beloved.

Each of The 9 Rites guides you into tantric practices inspired by Isis & Osiris — methods to deepen intimacy, support healing, activate energy and help you access states of bliss and ecstasy.

This is not theory. This is lived and experienced directly — it’s felt in the body, moved through the heart and soul, and experienced breath by breath.

If life feels dulled by routine, The 9 Rites remind you how to live fully, openly, saying The Biggest Yes to Life. These are timeless teachings, as relevant now as they’ve always been.

Sacred couple in union
Ankh breathwork practice
Ancient Practices

Living Transformation

The 9 Rites are a direct experience in which ancient practices of breath, movement, sound and sensitivity help carry you deeper…

As we step into them we create a safe space in which all of you is welcome, and all of your beloved too. We create a space in which differences are celebrated, similarities rediscovered, and where your hearts are offered at the altar so you can love more – and heal anything that may hold you back from that love.

Each session builds step-by-step carrying you deeper. Each initiation opens a doorway to new depths and heights.

Together, you’ll journey through so many layers of yourselves — and emerge somewhere neither of you expected — with a new vision of what is possible.

Why settle for comfortably numb, when you can shoot instead for ecstatically alive?!

Do you feel the call?

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The 9 Rites Journey

Each Rite Builds on the Last

The 9 Rites are designed as an initiatory journey — each session opens new pathways, each practice deepens what came before.

By the final Rite, you will have journeyed through so many spaces and places — energetically, physically and experientially — and arrived somewhere neither of you expected.

A place brimming with love, in which you know how to access bliss and high tantric union – because you have learnt the practices that enable you to access these higher states.

Only a few couples are accepted at any one time

Sacred couple journey
The Journey

Within The 9 Rites
We Explore…

Sacred Space & the Sacred Fire
Week 1

Sacred Space & the Sacred Fire

As we open our 9 week container we do a big picture review of where you are in your lives and in your relationship – what you appreciate about each other, what you feel challenged by, and what you would love to see transform. You’ll also learn how to create a shared sacred space, in the centre of which we create a sacred fire for purification, clearing, and renewal. All the things you’ve been sitting on or left unspoken? It’s time to speak it and offer it into the fire…

Ankh Breathwork
Week 2

Ankh Breathwork Secrets

Learn breathwork practices that connect your body, heart and soul — for personal practice and shared connection with your beloved. Through learning this practice you anchor a technique into your life that helps you align body, heart and soul into one united whole. The result? You feel more connected, more attuned to your beloved, and more clear on the path you are walking in life.

Chakra Loop Initiation
Week 3

Chakra Loop Initiation

A potent initiation that opens the Ka — the energy body — by activating a series of energy points on the front and back of the body. If you don’t feel much energy, this initiation will melt the numbness and help you to sensitise to more aliveness in and through your body. How can you become a better lover or partner if you don’t feel very much? This initiation helps attune you to your energy body and your emotions so you start to experience life breath by breath.

Serpent Practices for Raising Energy
Week 4

Serpent Practices for Raising Energy

Learn to work with Sekhem — the Egyptian equivalent of kundalini life-force — and how to raise the single and double serpent to carry you into higher states of super connection and ecstasy. Following the Chakra Loop initiation, the serpent practices help us keep clearing out any old or stagnant energy. When we do, energy naturally and easefully rises through your body, carrying you into expanded states — be that solo or with your partner.

Heart Breathing
Week 5

Heart Breathing

Learn a deep and powerful breathwork method for clearing emotional blockages, melting numbness, and dissolving stagnancy. At times it can be all too easy to armour our hearts because of past hurts or trauma. This special breath technique shows you how to meet, feel and move through the trauma so that breath by breath you feel lighter, brighter and happier.

Awakening the Senses
Week 6

Awakening the Senses

Learn how to combine tantric breathwork with conscious touch… this helps you support one another to soften protective layers, open to more love, and allow energy to flow more fully in your body, and between the two of you. As both of you begin to feel more comfortable with emotions and energy arising and moving when they need to, we open the door to more ecstasy and joy… you cannot be multi-orgasmic without first being multi-emotional!

The Golden Oil Initiation
Week 7

The Golden Oil Initiation

A tantric transmission supporting the remembrance of sexual energy as golden, pure, divine, and holy, inspired directly by ancient Isis Osiris teachings. In this guided initiation we work with a Egyptian sacred oil infused with gold leaf. One of you is guided to offer this golden oil tantric massage to your partner. The receiver breath by breath feels the aliveness of their body — and as you become freed of the old story that ‘Sex is a Sin’ — you are reconnected to the truth that your sexuality is divine, holy, golden and part of what makes you whole (and wholly ecstatic!).

Ankh Practices for Lovemaking
Week 8

Ankh Practices for Lovemaking

As we near the end of our journey together, we return again to the Ankh practices. We move into the more advanced Ankh couples practices that can be integrated directly into your lovemaking, to carry you into holy union and blissful states of super connection with each other, and with the wider life-force you are part of. Tasting soul communion and states of oneness with your partner and the universe, you experience directly that which has been passed down through mystic teachings since time immemorial.

Week 9

The Secret Rite

The final initiation is revealed only to those who step onto the journey. It is shaped by the couple themselves, and informed by what will most deeply serve their continued opening and evolution. It may take a number of different forms depending on what would most support you. During this final session we complete and seal the container, leaving you with a set of tantric tools, techniques and practices you can continue to work with for a lifetime.

Nine weeks. Nine initiations.
One journey, shaped around the two of you.

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The Transformation

Meet Future You

Imagine… You’ve just completed The 9 Rites of Isis & Osiris.

You feel more energy in your body than you’ve ever felt before.

The emotional numbness or overwhelm you struggled with beforehand has melted — and underneath it, you now experience a feeling of love and connection, not only with your beloved, but with the wider world around you.

You have tantric tools and practices you are using on a regular basis — they help you to energise every morning, de-stress at the end of each day, and prepare you for beautiful tantric lovemaking with your beloved.

You never thought this would be possible… and yet you are experiencing it in real time, day by day.

You feel in flow.

You are more in love with your partner than ever before.

You know The 9 Rites will support you throughout your life.

You know how to fan the flames of love with your beloved.

Now there’s so much love it comes to overflow, and pours out to touch the world around you with more love.

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A deeply connected couple

What You’ll Receive as Part of This Journey

Live Private Sessions

9 Live Private Sessions with Kiya

9 × 2.5 hour live sessions held privately on Zoom over nine weeks — just the two of you and your guide. Each session is a sacred, held space that builds on the last, carrying you deeper into the journey.

Lifetime Session Recording Access

Lifetime Session Recording Access

Every session is recorded so you can return to the teachings, re-experience the practices, and more deeply integrate the initiations at your own pace (when you re-do the initiations they can be even more powerful as you are becoming more and more sensitive).

Guided Videos and Audios

Guided Videos & Audios

Additional video and audio resources to support you in anchoring deeply into the Egyptian Tantric practices between sessions — so the transformation continues to unfold beyond the live calls. These include guided personal and shared practices.

Guided Tantric Audio Practices for the Bedroom

Guided Tantric Audio Practices for the Bedroom

Bonus guided audios you can play in your bedroom — including step-by-step audio guidance for practices including the Egyptian Golden Oil Initiation — supporting you & your beloved into deeper tantric connection and lovemaking.

WhatsApp Support with Kiya

WhatsApp Support with Kiya

Kiya is available on WhatsApp between sessions to respond to your questions, and listen to your challenges and insights. He’ll support you as you navigate the dynamics of day-to-day life throughout the 9 weeks.

Note:

Kiya only works with a small number of couples at a time.

Sacred couple in devotion

Who The 9 Rites
Are For…

The 9 Rites of Isis & Osiris are ideal for couples who feel a resonance with Egypt and are curious to discover Egyptian Tantra and how it can support them in their life.

The idea of an Egyptian Tantric path can be controversial for some, as the word Tantra comes from Sanskrit. Yet in ancient Egypt there were parallel teachings of sacred union, with their own language and initiatory systems. In Egypt their equivalent term is ‘Tettetu’ — which translates as ‘the meeting of the two spines aligned to the divine.’

Within this path are powerful energetic practices that are uniquely Egyptian in their structure, symbolism, and energetic methods — they are potent, powerful, and amplified by the gods and goddesses of ancient Egypt.

This Journey Is Ideal for You If:

  • You are tantra-curious and open to explore intimacy in a new way.
  • You are navigating challenges in your relationship and want a held container to support healing and reconnection.
  • You sense there are deeper levels of love, intimacy, and higher states available through lovemaking, but you’re unsure how to get there.
  • You notice your sexual connection can focus towards the physical, while your heart and soul long for something more expansive and powerful.
  • You have touched moments of deep union before and want to know how to access them more regularly through tantric techniques.

This Journey Is Not For You If…

You’re looking for a quick fix, and are unwilling to go beneath the surface of what’s happening between you.

Only one partner is interested in, or committed to, going on this journey together. Both need to be willing.

You’re not open to exploring the deeper layers of emotional blockages, disagreements, and challenges in your relationship.

You’re seeking a superficial connection — and aren’t curious about the deeper dimensions of love and intimacy.

You’re not open to learn energy practices, or to the possibility that there are deeper dimensions to your sexuality and your shared connection.

You’re unwilling to be vulnerable or honest — with yourself or your partner.

Let Isis & Osiris
Guide You

As you probably know by now, I work very closely with Goddess Isis. At times I channel her guidance, teachings, and practices. My book Egyptian Tantric Secrets was a profound transmission flowing from her during an intense 9-day ‘mega-download’ experience.

When you step into this container with me, there may be moments where I allow Isis to guide both of you more deeply into your connection. At other times I guide you based on my own direct initiations into these teachings.

Goddess Isis with golden wings Isis & Osiris — the sacred union

As we move through this sacred map of The 9 Rites, the journey becomes uniquely personalised to you — shaped by what best supports your healing, opening, and activation at each stage.

The intention is to help you open to more love, more energy, and to reignite the soul-to-soul connection — or, if that connection is already alive, to deepen it into even greater levels of power and potency.

What others say about Kiya’s work

Those who’ve worked with Kiya describe experiences that go far beyond what they thought possible — profound healings, expanded states, and a depth of love they’ve never accessed before.

Read their words below…

Sacred couple connection
Tim Griffiths
Tim Griffiths Full Time Psychotherapist & Men’s Circle Leader

Working with Kiya in a couples and relationship dynamic was transformative for both me and my partner. For me, the practices Kiya guided us through deepened and cracked open our relationship in such beautiful ways, but it did so in each of our hearts as well.

I still carry with me now to this day, the parts of me that I was able to access with my partner, and that Kiya so masterfully guided us into.

Katie Lang
Katie Lang Business Strategist

Our relationship was beautiful in so many ways, but there were parts we just couldn’t break through to. We turned to Kiya to find the ways of connecting more deeply and more intimately, beyond the projections, beyond the daily challenge of frustrations and triggers.

Session by session, Kiya would guide us into deeply connected experiences of intimacy, and it just cut through all the stuff that was in the way. It brought us back to what was there in the beginning — the depth of our connection and the intimacy we yearned for.

Paul Reimers
Paul Reimers Personal Development Guide / Teacher of Drunvalo’s Work

I’m so grateful to Kiya for our one-to-one work, and I’m blown away by what came forward! When he did the invocations I could feel a powerful shift of the sacred space that was created as Isis, Osiris and other guides came in to share. Not only were my immediate questions answered, but I was given deep wisdom and guidance I can continue to use to chart a course forward in my life.

Amia Rosa
Amia Rosa Rose Lineage Priestess

The synchronicities, the teachings, the deep healing rituals, and the powerful space held by Kiya allowed me to clear old wounds, embody my gifts, and step into a frequency I always sensed but didn’t yet trust. I now feel expanded, aligned, and ready to offer from a place of integrity, devotion, and wholeness. What a precious, sacred upgrade.

Carina Alencar
Carina Alencar Wild Soul Embodiment Guide & Healer

Working with Kiya has been a beautiful journey. We’ve explored a whole world of practices — with Ankh Breathwork as the foundation — while attuning to the frequencies of the Egyptian gods and goddesses. This journey has enriched my foundation and helped me focus my energy, clarify my path, and align to my natural gifts. I felt deeply supported.

Natasha Campisi
Natasha Campisi Writer, Healer & Mother

I’m completely blown away — this experience has been beyond incredible, actually magical. Kiya is a true channel of the Egyptian gods and goddesses, sharing profound teachings. For me, the Ankh practice has been life-changing — I’ve reached the same level of transformation as plant medicine, alchemizing real-life shadow work in a split second. It is truly life-changing.

Jasmin Magdalene Rose
Jasmin Magdalene Rose Sacred Union Mentor, Healer & Embodiment Guide

Whether you’re a beginner or more advanced, I highly recommend working with Kiya — for anyone interested in accessing higher states of consciousness, energy healing and gaining spiritual tools and techniques. His work is ideal for anyone who feels an affinity with the mystery school teachings of ancient Egypt — this guidance will awaken codes of remembrance.

Jacquie Shenton
Jacquie Shenton Transformational Guide

I felt so held in the experience. I really felt held by something so much larger than me.

What if you were born
to be free, divine,
and ecstatically alive?

Kiya Ankara at the pyramids
Kiya Ankara holding the Ankh key in an Egyptian temple
Meet Your Guide
Kiya Ankara
Best-Selling Author & Egyptian Tantra Expert

Kiya has been guiding people into expanded states of consciousness for 18 years — from ecstatic trance dance to rebirthing breathwork and tantra.

He has published 6 books, and is on a mission to show you that joyful living, deep healing, and embodied ecstasy are your birth right.

When he’s not writing or teaching the Egyptian Mysteries, he’s often found singing on his scooter at full volume as he drives around Bali (honestly!).

He is the founder of Mystika School — an online sacred temple — guiding people into Egyptian Tantra to transform their personal, spiritual, and relationship lives.

He trains the next generation of facilitators — initiating and supporting them to embody, and then share the Egyptian Tantric Secrets with others.

The Investment

A Journey That Will
Change Your Lives

The 9 Rites is not a little couples course. It is a living, breathing, personal initiation – held privately, just for you & your beloved. The practices, healing, and transformation you experience carry forward – and the tantric tools you learn will last a lifetime.

Before anything else, we talk via Zoom or WhatsApp. On our call, I’ll ask about where you’re at as a couple, and you’re free to ask me anything. If it doesn’t feel aligned for either of you, or for me too, we all have a space to say so honestly – there’s no sales pressure here. The 9 Rites only works if it’s the right fit for all three of us. If we all feel the YES – we’ll all know this is meant to happen.

Your Bespoke, Private Journey

The 9 Rites of Isis & Osiris

9 Private Live Sessions · WhatsApp Support · Lifetime Recording Access · Lifetime Practice Audios & Guided Bedroom Sessions

$4,499
Pay in Full (Save $500)
$2,500
Pay in Two Halves (Total Cost $4,999)

Note:
Kiya only works with a small number of couples at a time. Sometimes there is a waitlist.

Frequently Asked Questions

How many sessions are there in the journey?
The 9 Rites is a 9-week journey, with one live session per week of 2.5 hours. Each session builds on the previous, creating a deepening journey across the 9 weeks.
Do we need prior experience with tantra or energy work?
No prior experience is needed. Kiya guides you through each practice step by step. Whether you are completely new to tantra and energy practices, or have some background, the journey meets you exactly where you are. If you have a different level of experience to your partner that’s ok too… we support you as a couple and as unique individuals at the same time.
Is this suitable for couples who are going through a difficult time?
Yes. In fact, some of the most profound breakthroughs happen for couples who have felt a distance growing between them. The 9 Rites create a safe, held container for healing, reconnection, and renewal.
What does a typical session look like?
Sessions are held live on Zoom, one-to-one with Kiya. Each session involves a held space for sharing and being deeply heard, plus time to learn energy practices, receive guided initiations, have integration from the initiation and final sharing. Sessions run to 2.5 hours. The journey is intimate, personalised, and deeply held.
Are same-sex couples welcome?
Absolutely. The 9 Rites are open to all couples, regardless of gender or orientation. The Egyptian Tantric teachings of Isis & Osiris speak to the sacred union of polarities within all relationships.
How much time do we need to commit each week?
Each week you need to be able to join for a 2.5 hour live session. You will also be given practices to explore together in your own time — typically 30–60 minutes a few times per week, although this could run longer if you can make the time (especially for the tantric lovemaking aspects!). The more time you invest, the more you will receive from this journey together.
Do we need to be in a specific location?
No. All sessions are held live online via Zoom, so you can join from anywhere in the world. All you need is a private, comfortable space and a reliable internet connection.
How much is the 9 session journey?
The full cost of the journey is $4,999. This payment can be paid in full – in which case you receive a $500 discount. Alternatively the full payment can be split in two, half paid before starting and the other half after week 4’s session.
I have trauma — can this container support me?
Yes it can. In fact it can support both of you to learn how to better navigate that trauma with love, compassion and sensitivity.
How do we apply and what happens next?
Click ‘Book a Call with Kiya’ to schedule a tune in chat. This is a chance to connect, share where you are as a couple, and explore whether The 9 Rites Journey is right for you. There is no pressure — only an open conversation.